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i think the league will grow cs for girls, but it will also split genders which is bad...
I mean you can still watch it, it's not like you can only watch if you are female rofl.
I feel like half the stuff you've said is just to look good if the PGTV boys come and take a gander at this thread so you don't lose your job.
I said it last night on Twitter, if you follow me (@kingdashau hehe xd).
Trident won 2500 from winning CGp, and 1000 from coming first in ESEA Open. The ENTIRE prize pool for ESEA PREMIER
, minus the global challenge etc because hypothetically that's a different tournament, was 5000$, let alone first place being less than 2000.
But a 6 female team tournament gets 10k.
Yes everybody's speaking the monetary numbers, but it's not even about that, it's about the concept of exclusivity to a bunch of bots who end up getting rewarded at a much higher rate than the best teams in the country. Trident work their asses off and placed first at TWO different tournaments, yet they still probably make less ($3500 in total
) than whoever comes first in this tournament. Hell, if the prize pool for this tournament was 2k, and the female teams were INVITED, and the male teams could register at a fee of 50$ or some shit like that, there probably
wouldn't be any less complaints, the people who are still complaining at that rate are mentally deficient.
Concept, not materialism.
EDIT: Oh, don't forget to mention that the last WPGI was 4 teams, 1000 on the line and winner takes all, so the iM females took home the same prize money for winning some bot tournament, than Trident won for winning ESEA Open in Season 23, with 32 teams including Athletico, auRa and Funky Monkeys
Once AGAIN comparing prize pools from different tournament organisers. You just don't understand, do you dash?
If say, CyberGamer came out tomorrow and announced a 6 team female competition with a $20k prizepool (I'm using $20k because Cyanide said earlier in this thread that Autumn will probably be a ~25k prizepool), that would be a little bit weird.
But this is a completely different tournament organiser. With completely different sponsors, with completely different visions for the scene.
Let's use a more current scenario in the pro scene that you will probably understand.
The WESG tournament going on right now as I type this has a $1,500,000 prize pool (USD. In AUD it's about exactly $2,000,000). WESG doesn't in any way shape or form have the best teams in the world at the tournament. The winning team of WESG will receive $800,000 (Just over 1 million AUD), which unless I am mistaken, is the largest total winning prize for 1st in Counter-Strike history.
A lot of people have complained about this massive prizepool while they don't have the greatest teams there. But, then you have a look at the sponsor list for WESG:
- Alibaba ($27 Billion USD net worth)
- Ant Financial (Rough estimates say 50-60 Billion USD)
- Alipay (5 Billion)
From then on the Net Worth of the sponsors drops quite a bit, but you can see from the tournament organisers and sponsors, that they have more money available to them to use for prizes.
The kind of companies that sponsor ESL, Dreamhacks etc. are nowhere at all near the kind of networth of any of those companies.
And the different vision that WESG has from other tournaments was their nationalities rule where all 5 players in a team must come from one country. While it does seem like a silly rule and does make it so a lot of "bigger" tier 1 teams couldn't attend, this rule caters to Alibaba/WESG's vision of it being the "World eSports Games", where the tournament can prove what is the best country
at whatever the specific game is being played. Similar to Efrag's "The World Championships" every year.
Many people don't really like this, sure, but these tournaments cater to the visions of what the tournament organisers and sponsors want. Don't like it? You just have to deal with it, really. WPGI aren't taking money away from the rest of the scene. If anything they are throwing more into the scene.
So please, stop comparing the prize pools for different tournament organisers. That argument just doesn't work.