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AU Korii
Member
896 Posts
#1
2 years ago
So during the game of Azubu vs TSM.
Tsm tried to invade a level 1 gank, somehow Azubu knew that TSM were in a bush. During is, Woong was looking up at the big screen. having little looks. i'm not 100% on the cheating but it looks like they did.

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AU TheSk1ppy
Member
1,099 Posts
#2
2 years ago
Interesting....like seriously it is hahah
If you can't jungle taric you don't deserve to be there
AU cat1
Member
865 Posts
#3
2 years ago
even if they did cheat, they still got outplayed by azubu. not really a good excuse for loosing.
whomuni
AU Syncro6223
Member
75 Posts
#4
2 years ago
agreed they did outplay tsm. But i doubt that is the point, infact tsm has admitted they got outplayed hard in the second game. The deal is thats unsportsmanlike behaviour and i doubt the lol community wants to see this leaking into the game. Tbh the venue was not well thought out, there was numerous problems with the sun and now this stupid idea of having the mini map in near plain site of the players.

I'd be happy to let it slide until those pings, very shady stuff and it just dampens what was very nice gameplay by azubu.
AU Shieldeh
ShoutCaster
2,593 Posts
#5
2 years ago
Quote from Redbeard, VP of Esports from Riot Games:
Hey guys,

After two days of smooth sailing during the World Playoffs, Day 3 was disappointing. We've spent today investigating and reviewing the problems, and I'd like to go through and address some of the community's big concerns surrounding yesterday's issues.

In hindsight, the potential visibility of minimap screens for players was a mistake. Despite on-site referees, close monitoring of player cams backstage, and stage design that ensured players would have to turn more than 90 degrees to be able to catch a glimpse of the minimaps, even the possibility of unfair play was simply unacceptable. We're taking steps to ensure the minimap screens are not visible to players.

We are re-examining photos, videos and renders of the stage layout to definitively understand sight lines between the players on-stage and the minimaps overhead. We're taking it a step further moving forward to completely ensure the screens aren't visible to players.

Forward-facing camera angles can be misleading and we want to make sure everyone has the full picture before drawing any conclusions. This is something that we believe requires a comprehensive investigation but we absolutely understand why it's cause for alarm.

In the meantime, here's a quick overview of the two primary minimap incidents we've been reviewing:

TSM/Azubu game

Azubu Frost had a microphone issue that didn't allow them to communicate during the opening of the game. As a result, the game was paused.
It was noticed that both teams had players that were shifting their bodies during the pause. Blanket warnings were issued to both Azubu Frost & TSM.
Referees decided to issue a restart, as a) Reginald & Chaox had concerns about screen looking and b) Azubu's communications disadvantage could reasonably be interpreted as requiring a restart under tournament rules.
No further incidents of screen-looking were witnessed during this match.

Team WE/CLG.eu game

A player from Team WE was not facing forward for a moment during the 3rd and final restarted game before we wrapped for the night.
We've reviewed the existing footage and firsthand accounts from our referees, and we believe the player's head turn may have been in response to a loud vuvuzela and crowd cheering. We haven't found conclusive evidence either way and are continuing to investigate.

Those are the primary incidents that have been reported, but we are also investigating other alleged instances. More importantly, we are taking steps to completely ensure the screens are not visible to players at the conclusion of the Playoffs and Finals.

Hardware and connection issues are harder to prepare for. Video cards can explode. Network cables can short out. Headsets can die. While we can pause and restore games, if any of those things happen in the middle of a teamfight, it will impact the course of the game dramatically. Long-term, we know we need better solutions for this and it is a priority.

Regarding yesterday's connection failures, we had a string of issues including a power failure, and two internet connectivity incidents we are continuing to investigate. It sucks that this happened, but we're going to dive deep into the root cause to see if there are any other redundancies that could safeguard against this in the future.

We're trying to deliver an extraordinary experience for viewers, and yesterday didn't live up to our goals. We're going to take everything we've learned from the Playoffs and strive to make the remainder of the Quarter- and Semifinals, as well as the Finals, as great as we can make them.

In the long run, looking to season 3 and beyond, we're always learning and we're reading all your feedback and taking it to heart. We believe the most important concern here is about fairness, and we're going to do everything we can to preserve that moving forward.

League of Legends as an eSport is young, and we're learning a lot with each event. This is the run-up to our Super Bowl, and we've really been pouring our blood, sweat and tears into it. We're as disappointed as you are that yesterday had so many issues, but we're committed to improving, so that's what we're going to try to do.

Right now we're focused on setting up the conclusion of the Playoffs, and we'll have more details on that shortly.

Thanks,

RedBeard

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2655300
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AU Tempa T
Member
2,640 Posts
#6
2 years ago
Screen-cheating at a professional tournament. Lol.
AU just Jake
Member
1,517 Posts
#7
2 years ago
Quote from nja&cat on the 8th of October 2012:
even if they did cheat, they still got outplayed by azubu. not really a good excuse for loosing.
LoL games can be won from the lvl 1 team fight
the lvl 1 can snowball the entire game

if someone screen cheated to see a lvl 1 push they were going to lose thats kind of a big thing
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AU markoz
Member
392 Posts
#8
2 years ago
Im saying this as a TSM fan azubu deserve the win. TSM said it themselves, in the end they got outplayed no matter what happened level one. Sure TSM was a bit sad from the lvl 1 thing but they accepted that azubu deserved the win they said they absolutely do not discredit frost's win and they think there should be no remake or anything like that and they should stay through. Like Regi said in a vlog alot of people are really over exaggerating this whole screen cheating thing.
AU cat1
Member
865 Posts
#9
2 years ago
Quote from just Jake on the 8th of October 2012:
LoL games can be won from the lvl 1 team fight
the lvl 1 can snowball the entire game

if someone screen cheated to see a lvl 1 push they were going to lose thats kind of a big thing
i agree but im sick of hearing tsm supporters blaming their tournament loss on it. you still have 99% of the game to play and they simply got outplayed.
whomuni
AU just Jake
Member
1,517 Posts
#10
2 years ago
Quote from nja&cat on the 8th of October 2012:
Quote from just Jake on the 8th of October 2012:
LoL games can be won from the lvl 1 team fight
the lvl 1 can snowball the entire game

if someone screen cheated to see a lvl 1 push they were going to lose thats kind of a big thing
i agree but im sick of hearing tsm supporters blaming their tournament loss on it. you still have 99% of the game to play and they simply got outplayed.
no one has said TSM deserved it ? not even they did ?

but losing the lvl 1 is a legit way to lose the game its a big thing

on top of that whats the point of playing at a professional level if theres going to be cheating ?
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AU cat1
Member
865 Posts
#11
2 years ago
have you even looked at the youtube comments on the regi retiring video..
top comment
"Azubu would not have won, they barley kept up with tsm. Look at their other games, they were struggling then to win"
whomuni
AU just Jake
Member
1,517 Posts
#12
2 years ago
LOL !!!
"youtube comment"

not worth my time to reply to that properly

tyvm
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AU cat1
Member
865 Posts
#13
2 years ago
Quote from just Jake on the 8th of October 2012:
no one has said TSM deserved it ? not even they did ?
Quote from just Jake on the 8th of October 2012:
no one has said TSM deserved it ?
Quote from just Jake on the 8th of October 2012:
no one
OK M8
whomuni
NZ Dan_NZ
Member
350 Posts
#14
2 years ago
Clearly cheating. Imo TSM would have had a chance to take out game 1 but game 2 was complete outplaying. WD Af.
AU ViciousTaco
Member
103 Posts
#15
2 years ago
at a professional level, nobody but the players can understand the pressure that there under, and if there is a possibility that they can get a leg up in a dishonest way, then like athletes in the olympics they may fall for the temptation, in my opinion the best team won

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